You kinda expect it when there’s a discussion on the physical disciplining of kids. There’s always one who will bleat with authority that, “Being smacked didn’t do me any harm”… I bet somewhere deep in that individual’s psyche it did. And now we see David Lammy advocating physical discipline towards kids as apparently lack of discipline caused the riots….apparently!
I have to say when this was first raised with me I was pretty disparaging. But I started to listen. These parents are scared to smack their children and paranoid that social workers will get involved and take their children away.
Lammy, who admitted to smacking his three- and five-year-old sons, said working-class parents should be able to physically discipline their children to prevent them from joining gangs and getting involved in knife crime.
He added: “The law used to allow ‘reasonable chastisement’, but current legislation stops actions that lead to a reddening of the skin – which for a lot of my non-white residents isn’t really an issue.”
“The ability to exercise their own judgment in relation to discipline and reasonable chastisement has been taken away,” he said.
Firstly, I am appalled Lammy smacks his young children and secondly, what the hell is “reasonable chastisement”… Reasonable chastisement is an elastic term that can be stretched beyond the limits.
Victoria Climbié and “Baby P” lived in Tottenham. The parental figures for both these two children could have argued that they had the moral right to “chastise” them. Both of those children were murdered by either a parent or a close relative (great aunt regarding Victoria Climbié ) yet Lammy doesn’t seem to understand the political significance. Where do you draw the line? Parents who beat their kids senseless could happily argue that they were simply telling them off…”Never did me any harm”…
Violence in families exposes power relations, kids are seen as an addendum of parents and a kind of property therefore physical discipline is deemed acceptable. In the past, patriarchal norms dictated that a man could discipline his wife and kids with a stick or whip no wider than his thumb. Would Lammy argue that if a woman misbehaves in the home she should get a hard slap (as long as you don’t leave a mark same with the kids)? She’s stepping out of line, arguing back and misbehaving…. You need to teach her a lesson and to show who has got the power. Because, let’s face it, it’s on similar lines to what he’s advocating!
Violence is about power and control. When you hit someone who is far less powerful than you it gives a sense of relief, a rush of adrenaline and seeing that the immediate result is that the kid or young person is behaving themselves gives a sense of victory. But what of the individual who has been exposed to the violence? Some victory….
Violence begets violence. I know adults who have experienced violence in the home and school say you become desensitised by it and it becomes normalised. And it also instills a belief that if you want to get by as a kid in life and you want to assert your own authority then the only way is to resort to violence…cos that solves everything, doesn’t it?
Lammy sees it all from the parents point of view (and with his emphasis on working class families is rather interesting and insulting….) and not from a kid. If as a kid you were hit, how did it feel like? Painful? Humiliated? Hurt? Angry? Shocked? Worthless? Is Lammy concerned? Has Lammy spoken to children’s charities?
This is what the NSPCC say:
Research commissioned by the DCSF (IPSOS MORI 2008, Sherbert Research 2007) shows that a significant number of children continue to be hit. Focus group research commissioned by the government with children and young people highlights the extent to which physical punishment can be routinely used; children recounted experiences of being smacked for forgetting to tidy their bedroom, talking back or for accidentally knocking something over (Sherbert Research, 2007).
Most children taking part in an earlier NCB and Save the Children research study described a smack as a ‘hard hit’ or a ‘very hard hit’ (NCB, Save the Children 1998).
And
A total of 23 countries worldwide have now legislated to make all forms of physical punishment against children illegal in all settings. The UK is now one of only five EU countries that have not yet legislated, or committed to legislating, to give children equal protection from assault.
So instead of encouraging violence against kids, Lammy should be arguing that kids and young people should be treated as equals and as the same as adults. Nobody should experience violence.
I remember as a kid myself that some of the biggest bullies in the playground were ones who were experiencing violence in the home. It’s about being able to assert your power and authority over someone who is less powerful. Is that what Lammy wants to instil? Who is the biggest bully? Violence has a negative impact on self-worth, confidence and self-esteem. Does Lammy want to see more damaged adults out there?
The riots in the summer weren’t about lack of discipline but about deprivation, poverty, victimatisation, criminalisation, unemployment, racism, racist policing with the trigger being the shooting of Mark Duggan which all exploded on the streets. Lammy prefers to indulge in the politics of distraction as examining the real underlying issues would implicate the previous New Labour government which Lammy was a part of.
Violence solves nothing, if anything violence begets violence.
Maybe Lammy should be reading the articles on Children Are Unbeatable. Might learn something!